/sigh

[Oseh]

well, i can't believe im even posting this thread...

but after looking on ebay at the elder jedi accounts and what they sell for at this time....I don't think I can resist the offer, some elder jedi accounts are selling for over $1000...

I know most of you can't stand ebayer, but hell, do you realize what I can do with 500-1000 dollars?, pay RL bills, upgrade my jeep, or even invest it...who knows what elders will go for later on, I think that this is the prime time for me to release oseh to another gamer...

Things may be crazy for the other people in the game and for yall who are still in the game because it wont be me...BUT i look at it this way....I havent logged in 2 weeks and have no desire to log on...so im gonna think about this and get back to yall...but as of right now, im about 75% ready to commit....

Oseh

Seth

[Darkmatter]

jedi used to go for 3k during precu.

However, now I don't see them as much any more. The most you could get from a jedi account is around 500. Assuming you have alts that are just as good and items that are beyond easy to get.

If you want, send me a list and your character descriptions and best items you have in game. From there I could tell you how much you might get if you were to sell.

[Mobus]

I think I saw an account selling for 1k on ebay. It had some crazy stuff, though. An elder on two servers (I think), a bh with mando and jetpack, lots of creds.

I've considered selling Mobus, but I think more bad would come from it than good. The good is of course the money itself. I could invest in four quality tires or building a new computer. Both of which are good, long-lasting investments of the money; and both of which will without a doubt equate to more money in the future.

That one pro probably outweighs all the cons I'm about to list, but the cons do have strength in numbers.

1. There's the hassle of setting everything up for sale. For maximum profit, everything probably should be neat and easy to see, evaluate and understand. By that I mean no houses with piles of junk, a clean inventory, etc.

2. There is the sale itself, where not only do I have to think of and list out all the selling points of my account (elder jedi, x amount of credits, buy him because he's hawt) to try to make it more attractive than the many others I'd be competing with, but I also have to break the rules that I agree with every time I sign into the game. I'm pretty sure it is against the rules, anyway. I normally wouldn't care, but this inolves RL money, and things always have a good chance of getting messy when money is involved.

3. I'd never be able to log on Mobus or SWG again. Mobus because, well, I sold him, and SWG because, well, I SOLD MOBUS. And even though it should be it's own con, #3 also means I'd never fly my wonderful ships again.

4. Mobus would become an "he's an ebay Jedi" name.

5. Would I still enjoy being called "Mobus" by all of my online friends if the original Mobus was in someone else's hands? How many of you would like calling me Josh or Lebashar? I prefer Mobus. Lol But I wouldn't if I sold him!

6. There is no telling how the new owner would act. He could be a complete asshole and surely lead some people to think the "old" mobus is now a jerk off. This shouldn't matter, because it's just an avatar and was never *really* me anyway, but it does. I guess that means I'm too attached to the character or the name, or both. I won't dispute that fact. But a fact it is, and a con this is.

7. As unlikely as it is, SWG may become an uberlicious fantasticly GREAT game someday. Maybe even spontaneously. Or slowly. Each patch pvp becomes more fun, for me. I hate bouncing between WoW and SWG, and selling Mobus would be a sure way to make sure I never bounce again, but it would also be a constant "should I have done that??" type thing in the back of my mind when I think of games, Star Wars, you guys, etc.

All of these cons, which don't even begin to hit materialistic value, are really vastly outweighed by the prospect of making 500-1k American Green. If material things are in the end meaningless, then how meaningless is a video game, which can't even be touched? By selling my account, I could turn an untouchable, complete waste of time into something real and beneficial. Sure, SWG is (or can be) fun, but what GOOD is it? Tires are fun and provide safe transportation. A new computer is so many things, and is even what I use to make money. However, a new computer could only do one thing that my current one can't. That is: play these obscenely resource-intensive games that people keep dumping on us.

Then there is this other thing nagging at me. By saying that those cons I listed above don't really count because they aren't even "real," I feel like I am saying that my feelings don't count. I will miss Mobus and the people who play SWG. Maybe that is a psychological problem, and maybe it even means I am seriously addicted. I'm not sure. But I'm not ready to discount my feelings yet. I'm not sure, as nice as it would be, if selling my account is something I could do.

However, in the end, $500 > Mobus. You would think that is all there is to it.

[Mobus]

Let me also say that given SOE and their past actions, this decision SHOULD be a complete no-brainer. Just looking at one incident alone leads me to conclude that they do NOT deserve ANYONE'S money. That incident is the manner in which they gave us the NGE, and the way they treated the community while doing so.

Since that isn't an easy choice, I am wondering if I am really "all there."

And make sure you read this Oseh:
Q: Great way to sell the account. I wanted to ask you does this completly protect you from scams? Reason i ask is I had sold an account a few years back and 5 days later they did the famous reverse charges. As I'm sure you know Ebay and paypal do not stand by accounts. So I would like to know by selling the Item are you 100% protected? Anything i would need to make sure i do before selling my account? Also if I might sugest I would require the buyer that they have to sign for the package apon recept. Anyways thank you for any info you can provide as I want to sell my account and since been burned in the past would like some feedback on how to protect my self. Good luck on the sale. Looks like a great account I hope you get a good price. Please send me any tips you can think of and also a tip from me is to get the buyer to sign that they recieved the product. Thank you for your time and Good Luck!!
Sep-15-06

A: It's the first time I do it but it should. The chargeback problem is when you sell intangible items. Here I am selling the GAME, NOT the account, the account is only a free bonus that comes with the game. So according to Paypal's policy, yes I should be protected. I have been scammed on this twice as well that is why I now do it this way and yes I require signature.

contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowAllQuestions&requested=marinseller63&iid=160029641063&frm=284&redirect=0&ShowASQAlways=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_VI


From the $1,125 Jedi sale @ cgi.ebay.com/SWG-Account-LvL-90-Elder-Jedi-Full-Mandalorian-Mando_W0QQitemZ160029641063QQihZ006QQcategoryZ62053QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Ehrgeiz]

You have to be real careful as paypal and ebay don't cover electronic items so they can reverse it and you lose not only the account but the money. As mobus posted you would need to sell the game and have the account as a bonus so if this did happen you could get the money back.

[Mobus]

Yeah, that seems to be the only safe way. I'm not sure if even that is enough to make me trust selling an account on ebay.

I'm undecided about what the future of my account may be. I never ever thought I'd even consider selling it! But then one starts needing money lol. As many times as I have quit in a "this is final" manner, I wouldn't like to give up completely on SWG. Still, I have some good excuses for doing so, no matter how good the game may get.

The means don't justify the end. And it can be said (although whether or not it is true is debatable) that continuing to play the game is saying that the means do justify the end. If a non-video game company pulled some of the stuff the suits have done with SWG, they would be very out of business. They think they can get away with unethical shit because of a very vague agreement we make each time we boot up the game. Heh, "think" is the wrong word. Obviously they can.

So I have established that $500 > Mobus/SWG, that SOE doesn't deserve anyone's money, and finally that for what they've done to us in the past, they should not be in business now. So where's the dilemma?

I suppose I am more attached/addicted/whatever than I thought. I still enjoy playing the game, and in fact had a blast on TC pvping as a smuggler in Restuss. But my actions don't stand up to reason. Logically, because of the way I feel about them and their past actions, I should not be giving them any more money. I am comparing my thinking to my actions here, no one elses. The point is that my ideas and actions don't match. That bothers me. It makes me wonder why there is ANY inner conflict at all. There's been one for what, two years now? It's nonsense. When all the facts are laid out on the table, it seems to make so much sense to be done with SWG, ebay sale or not.

It shouldn't matter if I enjoy the game. It's like hating the President yet re-electing him. (not saying I hate Bush) No, better yet, it's like hating cigarettes and smoking them! That's the perfect analogy, and I think it's exactly what's going on. I'm not holding on to a false hope, hoping that SOE finally makes SWG all it should be. No, I'm just plain hooked on something that isn't even good for me. It doesn't even give me screaming orgasms, like sex. Better off a nymphomaniac I say!

Yet still I have deliberation long after it should be done. Still I argue with myself when there should be no conflict.

I think this is nothing new. I think that every day each person's actions are not in perfect alignment with their words, thoughts, and beliefs. That alignment is very hard to achieve. I also think that many times they just don't realize that they are out of alignment. I, fully realizing this failure of cohesion, fail to do anything about it.

I'm not saying I want to leave, or sell my account, because I really don't. All I am saying is that, logically, it's what I should do. They kicked me in the nuts a few times already, why can't I kick back?

Why can't the agreement be void based on their actions? Why is there a dilemma?

I'll reiterate the title of this thread. /sigh

I hope you don't mind me using this thread for my musings, Oseh. I'd keep them to myself, but I only experience them like this when I lay them out as such. My thinking is that maybe if I let everyone else see them they will agree and give me the support I need to stop being such a yellow belly, or will point out flaws in my thinking and set me straight in another way.

That is, of course, if anyone reads this post. I'm sure many will be too busy licking their wounds from the wall-of-text crit it is sure to provide.

[Oseh]

bah, well heres my theory, when I see the money enter my bank account, im gonna go take it out of the bank THEN email them my info...fool proof way to get the money


haha no problem using this thread Mobus, you have completed its hawtness

and Im perfectly fine with yall calling me Seth =)

[Mobus]

w00t! I like the way you think, Seth. "Show me the money!" =D

I am still undecided about what course of action I will take with my account. They just implemented smuggling (been waiting 3 years), and here I am contemplating selling my account! *sigh* I'm taking my time with this decision!

I hope my only regret if I do sell it is: "I should have done it when it was worth more."

Another thing to add to the list of pros/cons is that while the game is slowly getting better, I am getting busier. And the speed at which I get more busy is faster than the speed that they are improving the game...if that makes sense.

[Oseh]

makes perfect sense lol, I just feel that if I wait too long, then Oseh will be worth nothing...so why not at least make back the money i've spent on him NOW when I can?

[Mobus]

Right. I feel the same way with Mobus. I dislike the thought of it, but maybe I should use logic for once and sell the dirty whore.

I'll miss spanking him. /hot!!!!!!! x100!!!!!

If I do it, it's going to be a pain setting up the in-game crap to where I feel comfortable selling him. Same with the actual sale on ebay. I've never sold anything there before. I am also afraid it will end up like my go-kart. Sold the thing for $550 and bought a used mountain bike that is worth $2k new. As soon as I sold it I missed the thing, and I still do. While the mountain bike is actually more fun and reasonable (I actually get to ride it on trails in the woods. There was no way to get my go-kart to such places), I still can't help but miss my spunky go-kart. I suspect it will be the same with Mobus if I sell him. I would rather not have that feeling. I better spend the money on something GOOD so I can look at it and say "it was worth it."

Edit: IF I sell him, that is!!! I never thought I'd say this about someone who sells their account, but I'll have even more respect for you if you do it, Oseh. It's not easy selling something you've spent so much time on and grown so attached to! I'm having a heck of a time trying to convince myself to do it. This will probably happen when I need to sell my first car, too! lol

[Oseh]

lol thanks Mobus/Lebashar/Josh, I've actually been thinking about it for a while now, but finally made my decision today, it was a tough choice, all that grinding, all that loot, and hawtpants...but it had to end sometime so why not sell it and get a lil back instead of just cancelling and then eventually getting deleted by SOE and be in the hole...

but even if I only get what I have put into the game... i.e. subscriptions and add-ons, ill be happy

[Mobus]

I'll miss seeing your bothan booty in SWG, so I hope you at least get a good price! I'm not sure my account is worth $500, maybe 200-300. I'd go for $400 with my account. I'd be happy with that.

You can set a reserve price, right? And that means that if the bidding doesn't go above that point, you don't have to sell it, correct?

*sigh* Ebay noob I am.

[Oseh]

actually, I dont think you can on this type of item i guess cuz it didnt give me the option to...but if you see it is not gonna sell for what you want 12 or more hours before it ends, u can stop the sale

[Darkmatter]

man you type alot.

/licks wounds

hi legolas

[Mobus]

Legolas? I don't get it. ><