Jedi and Visibility

[Neek]

Hi Everyone.

With the recent explosion of Jedi's in the guild and around, we see more and more group hunts around FO. I have also noticed that a couple of other guilds have adopted our Fort Ottinni as favorite place to come get hunting missions. This is great because the broken bottle is very occupied and we see more and more entertainers in there. We also get to hunt with new people which is nice also.

With that though, it made it more difficult to differentiate someone comming to join the group, versus a BH comming to execute a mission. Before, if the person wasn't in RSF, we all knew the person was a BH but now, it's more difficult.

Yesterday, two people approched the hunt group I was in (with Kindreth, luciotti, vikrant and veeto). One was an RSF member and the other who arrived at the same time was from another guild. Was it a friend of someone joining in or was it a BH, there was no way for me (us) to know. Turned he was a BH with Kindreth's mission.

We all know that visibility is innevitable. Regardless of how careful we are, it's just a matter of time before everyone gets on the terms at least once. I know I've gained a little vis from switching weapons close to someone, from a tusken spaning right next to me in a fight and from people swooping through the group and giving vis to everyone.

I think there are a few things we can do to reduce the preventable visibility by following a few guidelines.

First, when inviting someone in a group, making sure they know to stop 50m away from the group will save everyone from getting visibility.

Second, letting everyone know in the group that someone is comming (with the name) will allow everyone to know to be on alert and to expect someone. When I saw Jay-Z yestarday, I never tough for a second that he was a BH, I tough he was a new guy comming to join the group.

There's nothing we can do to completely eliminate vis, but I think that since we are hunting for a lot of new people we don't know, we need to be a tad more carefull.

I don't know if anyone else has ideas on this, or doesn't agree with this but it's just a couple ideas I had on my way to work this morning.

[Syek]

/agree

And sorry to hear about that Kin

[Kindreth Kin]

it will be ok i guess, i still got cl lvl 80 yesterday, took alday of grinding to make up the 400k plus another 800k but i got it

[Kowpla Kow]

hey guys,

I agree neek. it's very hard to know if the ppl that his coming is going to join the group or kill one of us

I spoken with Phenix and I think that the city near FO are rebel and got some Jedi too .. we think that it would be a good idea if we could get them to join us and Ban all BH that kill some of our Jedi and there's.
Then it will be a hell of a Ride to FO


what do you think

[Neek]

Well, it will help, but not by much I think. BH can't see names anymore, so that prevents them from writing a list of our guild's Jedi for example as he sees us, note that we hang arounf FO and only take our missions. It will only prevent a BH that came from shuttling back again.

From what I see, there are LOTS of BH out there and lots of Jedi also, so chances of seeing the same BH come in FO twice are farely slim. Every master artisan has now /respec into BH so that are tons of them out there and I think there will be many deaths and many XP loss before we see a decrease of BH caused by the shuttle. Let's not forget, FO is 4k away from Mos Espa so it not that big a ride. Align with the waypoint, set the cruise control, take a bathroom break, refresh your dring and voila, they are at the door.

If they win, they get their bounty and woop back. If they die, they clone at mos espa so don't even need to shuttle back. So yeah, it will help but by a very small proportion though. Too many of them out there and someone has to get killed before we can ban the BH.

The way I see things; we cannot control the BH, we cannot control the missions, we cannot completely eliminate visibility, but we can reduce risk and penalty.

Reduce risk by :
- Limiting hunting groups to RSF members. That way, we don't see people in RSF who can't join the group because 4 group members are from another guild. By doing so, we also immediatly know that when someone is incomming and they don't wear the RSF guild tag, then they are hostile.

- MAKE SURE that everyone knows that when they join, they need to stop 50m from the group to limit the risk of vis.

- Don't put people in your friends list that you are not 100% sure they are not Jedi hunting BH. Also, I have been receiving a couple of /tells of people I don't know asking me 'what's up'. That can only mean 1 thing, a BH is sending me a /tell to see if I'm online. Obviously, i don't answer those.

- And finally, limit the potential of loss by trying to keep the skillpoints invested in Jedi as low as possible untill the template is up to a point that you can defend yourself and have a fair chance. The way I'm doing it is that I only took 1 novice and went up to LS-0004. That limits the points I have invested so my loss will be very small, I still have all my attack skills from swords, i'm back at level-80 so full damage (if we can call it damage) and full XP. I'm getting 1250 Jedi xp off of level 81 dewbacks. That accelerates the grinding, still gives me good offence for when I get attacked and if I die, i'll lose 56k of XP which is very low.

[Ank'hara]

+50 visibility to you Neek

[Neek]

Thank you! SMITE!