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Post by Kindreth Kin on Aug 7, 2005 20:48:39 GMT -5
I need help figureing out how to beat a MBH\MCM. Eachtime i have gone against one their mind never even drops i will get there health done to half way but it takes me alot to just get them down that that far. i used force sap and force shock. my LightSaber is= Speed 1.9 Force cost 38 Max damage 570 elemental damage 148 DPS 348 is this good? Also what is the best kind of food to use?
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Post by luciotti on Aug 7, 2005 22:43:29 GMT -5
i dont know bout the jedi part of it but food wise i dont think u can beat breath of heaven/canape it gets my health up to like 41something...its weird though trying to figure out what will stack and what wont and maybe me and you should go kill necrosis a few times till you get a bane's heart crystal for you saber and if force sap is anything like binding attack i always found it was great to use right when your opponents action was almost gone that way it wont regen and they are screwed... i am a smurf
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Post by Neek on Aug 7, 2005 23:01:25 GMT -5
That guy had 4 or 5 different foods running. I should have written it down. He had blob candy (increases action regen), he had something to increase melee/range defenses, i forgot the name and 3 other foods (not drinks). That guy was a pro. As to your saber, it's similar to mine, and mine sucks. I have four crystals ranging from 50-55 damage and -2 to -4 FC and that's not enough. I'd say we need sabers with 4 crystals/pearls that are in the 80-100 range to be efficient.
As to Jedi food, mandalorian wine is great (+200 action AND mind regen) but nothing helps with the force. I would probably recommend something to improve accuracy like crispic which has a low fill. For the rest, I haven't been killed while at the keyboard still (knock on wood) so I don't have a lot of experience.
One thing for sure, our sabers aren't good enough.
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Post by eoro on Aug 8, 2005 6:05:35 GMT -5
if this was the anjon fight kin this is what he used, While taking the mission: (These are the long lasting ones) Kanali Wafers Blob Candy Bofa Treats
While engaging jedi: Mando Wine Won-Won Bluebooster
With those he's got some serious action/mind regen going on and his health would be somewhere in the 4k range.
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Post by Phenix on Aug 8, 2005 10:13:36 GMT -5
Kin,
First let me tell you that you can't stack food/drinks that gives you the same enhancement.
You can not stack a Brandy and Blob Candy per example because Brandy is HR, AR and MR, and blob candy is AR so they can't be stacked.
You can stack a Canape with a Blob Candy: Canape= +Health and MR and Blob is AR.
You can stack Food/drinks enhancements with spices no problem. Spices lasts 10 minutes which is plenty for PvP.
Here is my trick: I have beaten Marrer (MBH/MCM) with his mind... that's How I beat every CM/Doc nowaday. You just have to be wise, patient and do some decent damage and have good defenses obviously.
I always keep my stomack empty in case a BH shows up... when one shows up = Defenses up, Mando Wine, Force Infusion and ATTACK... I attack him so that he has no other choice then to heal himself... I don't pay attention to the poison (38 of damage a click on my template)... the only thing about the CM that is efficient is Fire (-240 Health a click on me) and their healing capacity.
To heal myself when the infusion isn't enough, I use some good Stim Ds (Mine heals 1150) but you can only use a Stim per 60 seconds. This roundtime can be reduced to 30 seconds if you take 1 Ruby Bliel and it will allow you to use another Stim D every 30 seconds if you keep drinking it after each Stim you use within the 60 seconds.
The good thing about Stims is that they don't drain your mind Pool. If I see that it will be a very tight combat, I use Muon Gold which gives you a 20% more Mind but with a -20% of action... I can live with that. You can take Pixie if you want more action then Mind though.
Once again, you can win against a MBH/MCM over time. Probably with better crystals too.
After a good fight, I have used 35-50% of my Force Pool.
My Max damage is 647 with my 2h Saber with a speed of 1.78 I think.
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Post by Neek on Aug 8, 2005 10:21:39 GMT -5
I think it all comes down to the fact that if you don't have a high damage output, the BH won't need to heal and won't drain his mind. If you have the best defence, but no serious offence, you're just delaying the innevitable. WIth higher damage, they will need to heal more and drain their minds to the point where they can't heal anymore.
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Post by negilum on Aug 8, 2005 11:31:58 GMT -5
like 99% of post CU jedi you need better crystals/pearls. the lack of premiums are the biggest problem jedi have right now. also pikatta and crispic will help you out. the biggest thing when fighting a healer is timing your KD so it lands right before they go to heal. most heal around 50% health , if you can get them KD'd at 50% you'll have a much better chance of ending the fight quickly, otherwise you'll have to outlast their mindbar.
btw my saber is: 1.55 mod spd, 604-700 dmg, 15fc, 100sac, with 534 mod dps.
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Post by Kindreth Kin on Aug 8, 2005 11:56:39 GMT -5
See tht is my biggest problam right their. My Ls. it dont do shit for damage. i can stand thier forever defending myself but i cant do no damage to drian their mind, and my FC is killing my force.
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Post by Vikrant on Aug 8, 2005 12:15:58 GMT -5
Hey I fought Anjon too. (Lost) I had his mind way down and was close to beating him. I think I would have if I had better then 600 heal stims. Force Choke really f'ed him up and he had to keep healing alot. I probably should have ran when I had the chance. I also would have been better off if I had force sap. I think I have a pretty good handle on my temp. I did beat a couple for rookies before this guy came. Fun fight.... I still have 5 boxes to complete so hopefully I will be able to handle myself once a full temp.
-Vik
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Post by Kindreth Kin on Aug 8, 2005 14:12:07 GMT -5
yah i fought anjon once too, (draw) but this wasnt anjon, aeric was his name i think. anjon and i fought for hours and i mean hours. we were on dath. he couldnt get my health down, and i couldnt get his down, but my force got drained. the first battle lasted 45 min. i run cause i was out of force and got away from him by runing up the mountains. He waited for me at SO. once i regained i went back, and agin 45 min we went at it. and again i couldnt get him to heal enough to drain his mind. so again i retreated. finialy he stop chaseing me. i loged and about 45 min latter i loggd back in and went to kash to grind some more. wasnt full template yet. he showed up again but i was tired of battleing him, and so i ran down the trail. well he couldnt keep up. finialy he droped the mission and we called it a tie
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Post by Phenix on Aug 8, 2005 14:18:37 GMT -5
Neg,
Last time I checked, Crypsic was broken for Jedi since it doesn't say General Melee/ranged accuracy...
Are you saying that they fixed it?
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