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[Lezaro]

just figured id post it

Chapter 8: The Nova Orion Crisis

Publish Notes, January 15, 2007

Nova Orion Station:

Nova Orion Industries, a starship research and development company, is based out of a space station located in Ord Mantell space. Created by Jonas Nova and Garrick Orion, the company has grown from its humble origins to become a galactic level producer of starships. The Nova Orion space station is a hub for new space quests in Chapter 8.
Star Destroyer Heroic Encounter:

An Imperial captain has gone rogue and taken his Star Destroyer with him. A group of adventurers who want to take back the ship may recruit a pilot to smuggle them aboard. Solo flight options remain available; however, groups will earn bonuses in the instance if they enter via a POB ship. Your journey to the Star Destroyer begins in the Aurilia Adventurer's guildhall.
Collections:
Added space-based collection system.
Added new ground collections.
Collection reward quests should now properly display the reward icons in the quest journal and the reward acceptance windows.
Space:
Ord Mantell can now be found on the hyperspace map.
Kashyyyk and Mustafar are displayed properly on the hyperspace map.
Greatly reduced droid command reuse time on most droid commands.
Removed the reference to Y-8 in name and description of the mining capacitor and reactor, since they may be equipped on more ships than just the Y-8.
Final mission for "Vothinyak" is no longer a convoy mission; it is now an escort mission.
Fixed a bug where ship components that were not actually in the player's inventory would be shown in the ship terminal component management window.
Adjusted the amount of ground experience gained for killing enemy NPCs in space.
Removed the quest complete window that would pop-up when a space mission was completed. For example, if you were on a Nova Orion quest, and you completed the first portion (a patrol mission), you will no longer get the quest complete window that requires you to push Accept.
The space loot system no longer tells the player they have received credits when they haven't due to a player having a full inventory. The player now receives a system message stating their inventory or loot box is full.
X-Wing Texture Kits: Added the ability to use the texture kits on Advanced X-Wings.
YT-1300: Changed the elite engine appearance to use the first engine appearance instead of the second.
YT-2400: Changed the engine appearances of the broken second engine to the first engine appearance.
Ship Texture Kit: Added the YT-2400.
Increased spawns for Imperial, Rebel, Black Sun, Hidden Daggers, and Void Wing Capital Ships.
Ships:

Four new ships have been added: the Rebel Incom X4 Gunship, Imperial YE-4 Assault Gunship, Blacksun AEG-77 Vigo Gunship, and the Naboo N-1 Starfighter.
Eight new shipwright craftable components have been added (three capacitors, three armor plating, one gunship shield, and one reactor draft schematics).
Ships no longer have a parking location, allowing ship view and launch from any planet or terminal.
Gyroscopes have been added to all player controller turrets. No longer will pitching/yawing your ship cause your turret to pitch/yaw as well(turret rotation clamps still apply). This should make shooting much easier!
The secondary engine appearance of the VT-49 Decimator fixed to use the correct engine glow.
Fixed a missing tractor beam appearance on all starships that have weapon appearances (tie fighters do not have weapon appearances).
Changed weapon version s03 appearances on the Belbullab-22 to use version s02, due to muzzles pointing down on the s03 version instead of forward.
Blacksun Light Fighters using the light engine version s02 have had their exhaust particle effect fixed.
The YT-1300, YKL37R, and Decimator missing elite engine appearance has been added.
Fixed the glow and the audio effect on the booster on the ARC-170.
Changed the turrets on the ARC-170 to use 360 rotation to fix a blind spot issue with firing turrets on the ship.
Rear turret angle of the Y-wing increased, which allows them to be more competitive in PvP.
The engine of the A-wing was using the wrong appearance, which caused the glows to be bugged. This fix puts back in the glows and the correct appearance.
Removed glow and bloom effects on the A-wing that were displaying in incorrect locations.
Ship details now properly updates to reflect damage or repairs.
Fixed a bug that caused the component status display to be incorrect when targeting player controlled ships after they respawned.
Storage deeds can now be used on POB ships. Storage deeds can be redeemed from a POB ship terminal or from the ship's control device in a datapad. Ships cannot be re-deeded until all storage deeds are removed.
Combat:

Creatures now obey line of sight rules when calling for help.
The special attack animation for bol, dewback, and bolma has been tweaked. It's no longer animating super fast.
Carbine animations now shoot particles properly again.
Weapon glow effects will no longer display while cloaked.
Combat spam for Damage over Time effects will now tell you how much (if any) damage was absorbed and resisted.
The Show Snare Messages checkbox now works as expected.
Minimum range on all grenades and grenade subcomponents is fixed at 0m.
Fixed an issue with grenades ignoring their correct cool down groups.
User Interface:

Clicking your own status bar or your target's target bar will set that target to your current target.
Right clicking a group member now has an option to send a tell.
Space group invite window closes properly when launching into space.
Added right clicking group functionality to the party and player (target / self) windows. You must be grouped in order to right click your own player window.
Leave Group has been removed from the radial menu; this can be achieved via right clicking on your status bar.
Fixed a bug where some buff effects were incorrectly removed on character death.
The selected target is now always cleared when entering the pilot's chair or a turret bay while in space.
Added an option under the Controls tab to enable/disable the new gimbal correction system for turrets on ships. It is enabled by default.
Character Skill mods are now displayed as percentages.
The Inventory split window buttons now properly align at higher resolutions.
After deleting an item from the inventory in List View, no item gets selected afterwards by default.
The red border surrounding a skill that is on cooldown but is trying to be used has been re-aligned.
The droid programming buttons (Datapad) now align and scale properly.
Changing font size using the mousewheel or the chat tab now saves.
Stopped "Out of Range" icon from disabling highlighting of button.
When "Mouse left and right drives movement" or "Middle mouse drives movement" are enabled in the keymap, driving movement with mouse buttons now properly cancels autorun.
In Lotto Loot group loot mode, a loot selection window will no longer pop up for the entire group if the only thing on the corpse is credits. In that case, the standard loot window will pop up for the person looting and the credits will be split among the group members.
Added a button called "Find Controllers" to the Controls tab in Options. If you plug in a joystick AFTER starting the client and press this button, it will find your newly plugged in controller.
/findcontrollers will now do the same thing as hitting the "Find Controllers" button in the Controls tab of the Options control.
Joysticks are now hot swappable. There is a 10 second delay if you happen to accidentally unplug your controller, but after that you will have to ask the client to find the controller again.
Users may have a max of 6 controllers connected to client per session. Any more than that and you'll have to remove some of the joysticks, and restart the client with the new joysticks attached.
/showinstanceinfo will now show information about what instances you and your group mates are flagged to enter.
The overhead map now automatically closes when entering a turret, pilot chair, and operations station.
Objects will now automatically stack when placed into a wearable container, even if the wearable container is not equipped (e.g., it's in your house).
Credit and bank values now can be delimited via a token of your choice (comma or period). This option is turned off by default, but you can turn it on via the Options -> Misc panel.
Naming a building, waypoint, crafted item or backpack in a player's inventory now ignores any leading @'s. @'s that are not at the start of the name are unaffected. For example: "@my house" will now be treated as "my house", "party @ my place" will still be "party @ my place" and " @home" will remain " @home" (notice the space).
Fixed a bug that would cause inventory and examine windows to display incorrect usability information after changing characters.

Collection titles no longer show as code string.
Removed "Description:" text from Quest Journal when a quest category is selected.
The Ship Component Management window now properly shows the counter measure packs for gunships allowing the packs to be loaded.
Waypoints:

You can now specify the name of the waypoint in the /waypoint command by putting it at the end of the command.
A "Set Color" option has been added to the waypoint radial menu to set the color of the waypoint. Note that this only sets the color of the waypoint, not the color of the waypoint name. You can also specify the waypoint color (blue, green, orange, purple, white, yellow) anywhere in the /waypoint command to create the waypoint in that color.
/wp has been added as a shortcut for /waypoint.
The waypoint created from the bazaar vendor search now contains the price and name of the item in the waypoint name.
On the ground, you can create a waypoint at the current intended/look at target location by specifying -target immediately after /waypoint (i.e. /waypoint -target). The intended (green bracket) target is checked first, and then the look at (blue bracket) target is checked. If there is no intended or look at target, the current location is used.
Fixed an issue where if a mail has multiple attached waypoints, and you save each attached waypoint one at a time, it will always create the last attached waypoint.
Fixed an issue where a waypoint attached to a mail does not retain its color when the waypoint is recreated from the attachment.
The waypoint color for the waypoint created by /findFriend is now purple. This only applies if a waypoint is actually created. If the existing /findFriend waypoint is re-used, the existing waypoint color will be maintained.
The waypoint color for the waypoint created for the Bazaar Terminal Vendor Location is now green.
The waypoint color for the waypoint created by surveying is now orange. This only applies if a waypoint is actually created. If the existing surveying waypoint is re-used, the existing waypoint color will be maintained.
Fixed an issue where sometime the /findFriend and survey waypoint do not display the correct distance in the waypoint monitor.
You can create a waypoint on a different planet or space zone from anywhere by specifying the planet/space zone name immediately after /waypoint (i.e. /waypoint <planet/space zone name). The following lists the planet/space zone name that you can pass to the /waypoint command (i.e. /waypoint <planet/space zone name> to create the waypoint on the specified planet/space zone.
tatooine -> Tatooine
naboo -> Naboo
corellia -> Corellia
rori -> Rori
talus -> Talus
yavin4 -> Yavin4
endor -> Endor
lok -> Lok
dantooine -> Dantooine
dathomir -> Dathomir
kachirho -> Kashyyyk (Kachirho)
etyyy -> Kashyyyk (Etyyy, the Hunting Grounds)
khowir -> Kashyyyk (Khowir Forest)
mustafar -> Mustafar
space_tatooine -> Tatoo System
space_naboo -> Naboo System
space_corellia -> Corellian System
space_deep -> Deep Space
space_kessel -> Kessel System
space_yavin4 -> Yavin System
space_endor -> Endor System
space_lok -> Karthakk System (Lok)
space_dantooine -> Dantooine System
space_dathomir -> Dathomir System
space_kashyyyk -> Kashyyyk Space
space_nova_orion -> Ord Mantell (Nova Orion Sector)

[eoro]

sounds like some very nice tweaks and additions. I especially like that about the star destroyer instance.

[Mobus]

Me too, it sounds purdy neat. They need to add stuff like that 5x as often, though.

[eoro]

I know one thing Mobus....you're avatar will have no face. Ever since I can remember...he has been rubbing his head in the b00bies!

[Mobus]

lol! But he seems to have disappeared now. =(

[eoro]

don't worry he is still there...and still rubbing

[Mobus]

Maybe it is your cookies. I try to go to the url of the gif and it is no longer there. It is terrible! =(

[Darkmatter]

you guys are funny

[eoro]

Don't You Bring My Cookies Into this!!!!

[Mobus]

But I Love Your Cookies So Much!

[Mobus]

www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/swgstateofthegame/2634-Star-Wars-Galaxies-State-of-the-Game-Chapter-7
Here's a State of the Game article on Chapter 7. It was a good read. It rekindled my hope for SWG a bit. It seems to me that the potential for fun is there...at least at the high levels.

And this one is the State of the Game article for Chapter 8. Fitting for this thread!
www.warcry.com/articles/view/interviews/2714-SWG-Chapter-8-Interview-with-Lead-Designer-Thomas-Blair

It's actually pretty inspiring! While I can't tell if any of it is any good or not without playing it (MMO devs could make sex with a male gorilla sound fun), it does at the very least seem like they are going in the right direction. Finally some new stuff to do in space, even if the majority of it does end up being NGE combat. And I'd love to set foot into one of those gunboats. The Neutral one looks fugly, so that guy saying it is by far his favorite has me hankering to see the interior.

Another thing I noticed is that the graphics in those screenshots look anything but dated. They look very nice. I'm sure the ground game is still laggy even with the very latest in technology (cantinas have always killed!), though. Lol, I always found it irritating how no matter how much I upgraded my computer over the years, SWG always had plenty of lag left over for me.

Lag aside, the game looks a lot more promising now that it has a dev team behind it that actually seems competent, if slow at getting things done. I'm sure brand-new players have a blast in SWG. There's a -ton- of new things for them to do and see, since they've not done or seen any of it before. For the vets everything is laced with memories of old and of regrets - I'm sure we all still wish the CU had never happened. That makes it hard to like the new game, even if it is actually good now.

And as such, ground combat may always be disappointing because of the extremely dumbed down character skillset customization. However, I feel that perhaps the biggest problem with the game now is how small the team is. It takes them so long to get anything done! The biggest problem used to be the dev team, but I like the new team (the old devs have all been replaced by now, one way or another). If only there were more of them. The game may be extremely fun again someday, but it will likely take a while at this rate! Most of us have given up hope long ago, never to even give it a second (or thousandth) chance. It certainly has taken a long time for them to clean up the mess this much. I'm left wondering how great it could be if that mess was never made in the first place.

I think that I may whip up a free trial once I find the time. Getting past those low levels would be painful, especially in 14 days, but I want to see for myself if SWG is improving. I hear whispers of a Droid Commander Chapter. I've been waiting since launch for droids to be truly useful and important to the game, so if they pull that off, I'll be genuinely excited - whether I play the game or not!

[Lezaro]

hahahaha i love the (or thousandth)

<raise hand>

That's me.

As for, "the Collections System", this feature is freakin' sweet. You get to travel around the planets looking for a certain number of items, to unlock more items that will create something even better. For example, Meditation. I just got that on Lezaro and it buffs me like with Pre-CU TKA. You can also unlock new "Elder Jedi" equipment such as a belt that holds storage and can be worn with the Elder Robe.

There's a few other items, too. Furniture, paintings, I think there are some pet items you can collect.

The "Heroic Encounters" are also pretty awesome. In one of the instances you can go into Mos Espa and try to re-capture the city from the tuskens who took it over and are holding people hostage. Once you rescue the hostages you go and fight the main guy and he takes about 10 minutes to kill with a full group and is far from being solo-able. I'd say he is the equal to CU's NK-Necrosis.
I love picx.


I also found that the new content puts you into old situations where you find yourself at a camp in the middle of no where dueling a bunch of random friends.

[eoro]

Those things do make it look good Lez. There are only 2 things keeping me from coming back for extended period of time. #1 The community, I know you still play lez, but I don't know anyone else. The others I do know are not there anymore. #2 WOW, we are progressing very nicely in WoW. We have taken some very big steps and are into Kara every weekend now.

Now I will admit my account is still active, so you might see me pop on there every now and then

[Mobus]

Sweet input and pics Lez! I'm happy to see you are having fun. One of the next things the devs are going to be working on is combat animations, so expect combat to look nice again. No more boneless crackhead animations I hope!

If I were to try it out, I'd likely not get back on Chilastra. The reason is twofold. First and foremost is Chilastra's population. I hear it is kicking again, but if I'm going to be starting over new, I want to do it on the healthiest server (population and space-pvp-wise) as I can. So it would probably be Bria, maybe Starsider because it has always been the place to be for space combat.

Secondly, as I hinted to before, I'd be starting completely fresh. How best to do that than on a new server, free from Chilastra-specific reminders of times long past? I don't want to be constantly taken back to precu by seeing familiar shops/houses and players. Not unless those people are old friends. That's the kind of nostalgia I like. But as Eoro said, you are the only one left, Lez.

I could be persuaded to play on Chilly again if enough old friends did so, but I really think that my chances of liking the game would be greater on a more robust server otherwise. Of course, this is just my opinion. And since I no longer have Mobus anymore, it is easy for me to say. I doubt it would be so easy for others who still have their characters on Chilly to start up fresh on another server. And then there's the extremely small chance that a lot of old RSFers come back and play on Chilly and I am established on another server. That would be terrible. =(

*sigh* I hate those kinds of decisions. Do I choose one because it would be best for right now, or another because there's a very slim chance it may be the best thing ever? It's like putting into a savings account vs doing the lottery.

I'll end this post with some questions for you Lez. How is the ground-game combat now? Is it still as terrible as it was before, a far cry from the polish and strategy involved in WoW? Heh, That's always been "saying something," because from what I hear WoW's is pretty simplistic compared to many other mmo's.

Also, how is group combat now? Is any kind of synergy and teamwork required?

And are smugglers still the redheaded stepchild?

Spank you.

[eoro]

And #3 to add on to my friend of many long posts, How is the crafting/condition of weapons? Is everything camped to high hell? Ok maybe that was 3, 4 and 5 but who cares